You just don't get it do you..

When you and your friends decided to create a program. Your also committing yourself s. Your committing yourself to the various aspects of creating something..

And it also means that it doesn't matter that acrylian thinks facebook is overrated if the users of the software doesnt. Because if your answer to requests are I am not interested. Your saying to your "customers" I dont give a flying f..k about what you mean. This is my creation. That also means that if you had been creating a paid software with that attitude.. You would be bankrupt pretty fast.

It doesn't matter if you think facebook is a scam or not. Its to important for many people. For a freelance photographer its a great way to promote your pictures. That doesn't cost a thing. Everybody is on facebook. Everybody uses facebook. At least a billion people does according to wikipedia. How many wants zencart and paypal integration in zenphoto?

You see it doesn't matter how many times you say 12 plus 12 is 94. Its still going to be 24 no matter how loud you cry..
And it doesn't matter that you think facebook is not interesting.. One billion users says otherwise.

Well I'm not on Facebook as I would rather spend my time on my computer doing other things - such as learn PHP which zenphoto is helping me to do.
Not been spoon fed when wanting to make changes has helped me with this.
I also use my PC for designing and making PCB's for my other hobbies using an excellent open source program ki-cad.
If it wasnt for programes like that I could not afford my hobby as commerical programs cost in the thousands...

John

From my point of view, this is a good thing that social networks are not integrated in the engine zenphoto. It is always possible to add them according to their tastes and expectations.

You know, asking for things in a less aggressive and more constructive language you can get a lot.
I wrote a piece of code that would be fine for your needs, but in view of your attitude, I do not want to share with you.

Ps : Translate by google

Here is a little hint for you Laurent. Not everybody speaks english as their first language...

If you create a software and you make it available for others. You make certain commitments in order for people to take it seriously. One of those are security. Another one is being helpful, either in preparing some guides on how things work or in answering questions.

The most important one is listening to your users. The users doesnt give a damn, about what you think is fun. They don't care if you think facebook is good or bad. They don't care if you think Obama is a great or bad president. They care about the respons you hand out to their requests.

Facebook integration has been asked for several times in the past. And that should give you a hint that maybe you should rethink things.

You answer a newbie that asks for a beginners guide. That he/she should write one.

Well to be honest that's not a proper answer. That is equal to having someone who doesn't have a drives license. Writing a book about driving a F1 car. If you don't know how things work.. Then how can you tell others how to do things?

I am asking them why facebook that has one billion users are ignored.

But for every fanboy that replies. It just proves the points written on various forums about support and other stuff.

And I forgot to say this..

When you check out ratings for zenphoto.. Often people give it a bad rating because there is not a good beginners guide. And second no proper facebook integration..
If your happy with the 144 people using your software. That really doesn't mean a thing. But if your goal is to get as many people as possible using your software.. That's not the way to go..

If all these other programes are so good then use them and '#@~ off from here - this software is brought to us from 2 core people!!!

And because it is open source they do this as a hobby as such. This wont pay the mortgage!

I guess you are the type that register on forums and then when people ask questions (cos you are so thick to answer) reply with the "search google" as the answer

As for farsebook can't you add pictures on there...and then post every move you make...fool

Even if you do things as a hobby. You make certain commitments.

I run a business that involves different stores. And if I catch one of my workers, with an attitude like that. They are fired on the spot. If somebody asks for an item that we don't have. We will not just send them on out their way. We will look and see if we have something similar that they might be able to use. If not we will see if we can order it for them.

The same applies if your writing open source programs that others are able to use.

Even if things are free. YOU STILL HAVE "CUSTOMERS". They might not pay. But they will expect respect when asking about things.

Coppermine that has a GUI that looks rather bad and has very few of the features that zenphoto has. Has a much bigger audience and lots of more plugins and themes. Why is that.

The answer is attitude. Start listening to your users and more will come. And more will volunteer to help. Why should anyone make a simple facebook plugin when your saying its not important.

Have you ever asked the users if someone can help with facebook? And I don't mean a plugin that involves facebook user ids and stuff like that.

Let me make it clear that Zenphoto is primarily headed by two developers. Both of these developers are volunteers with real world lives and real world responsibilities. Therefore, it becomes necessary for the devs to pick and choose what they want to dedicate their time to. It is impossible (and unwise) to implement every single feature that every user could ever want (or even every feature that has ever been specifically asked for).

The general idea of open source software is that, if there is enough interest in the addition of a particular feature, someone will contribute it. The devs do not have any responsibility to you, especially with your attitude of "the devs better make this for me or else". Believe it or not, there are some extremely helpful and patient members of this community who probably would have helped you given better circumstances. When you treat others with respect, you will receive in kind.

As I see it, you have a few options.

1. Write this feature yourself, whether you have someone else do it for you or you learn to do it yourself. If your friend feels it is easy to write such functionality, ask him to write it. We welcome any contributions if you should feel so inclined as to share your solution with other users.

2. Open a ticket on the bugtracker. Note that the devs have no obligation to implement a particular feature request. They are implemented if someone finds the time and interest to do so. If you do decide on this route, I remind you to please keep all future discussion civil.

3. Find alternative software that will better suit your needs.

This thread has been to the bike shed and back, so I am going to close it. If you have any technical questions, feel free to open a new discussion and we will answer to the best of our ability, but arguing semantics with purposefully inflammatory speech is not conducive to anything. Any further posts of this nature will not be tolerated.