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Image Keywords

boo Member
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Hi,
I think it would be great if there was a keywords field in admin for albums and images.

Which we can easily be used for the page meta keywords tag for the search emgines.

Thanks.

Comments

  • acrylian Administrator, Developer
    You could easily use the custom field (or any other field you don't use otherwise) each image and album has for this.
  • sbillard Member
    Maybe I don't understand what you are saying.

    For each admin page of an album/image there is a selection list for TAGS (keywords) and there is a TAGS tab in admin for editing them. These tags may be used for searching. In addition, if your images have keywords in their IPTC data, these are imported into Zenphoto.

    So what are we missing?
  • mrbiggs Member
    I think boo is asking about a way to put the tags or keywords into the meta part of their pages. Between <head> and </head>.

    It's the part that goes:<meta name="keywords" content=

    It helps search engines find the content. Flickr, for example, somehow sticks the keywords of an image into the header like this. That way Google can find Flickr pages based on one's IPTC data. Clever. I wonder too if there is a way for ZP to pick this data up.
  • acrylian Administrator, Developer
    You can write a function to display tags selected for an album or image as `tag1,tag2,tag3` like these meta keyword tag needs. You can also use the custom data field as already mentioned.
  • boo Member
    Hi,
    I haven't looked into tags or the custom field options.

    We have drupal for the main site pages and zen for the gallery.

    To me it would be nice and simple to actually have a keyword field for user friendlyness like drupal has, ie: enter keywords separated by commas for this album / image and then use them for the page meta keywords.

    It would make it easier to have a keyword field, I can't program php and probably never will, so please consider this option.

    Or please make it easier for us non-progammers to use the tags for the meta keywords.

    Many thanks.
  • sbillard Member
    So, what is the problem with doing just that with the front end editing?
  • acrylian Administrator, Developer
    @boo
    It does really not require much programming skills to add `" />` to your theme files to use the custom data field for keywords for example.
    Btw, the probably most used searchengine google takes the actual content of the site itself is much more important than any of these meta tags.
  • boo Member
    Hi
    Ok thanks, as you say the content is much more important.

    Thanks for the meta code above, We will have to consider whether or not to do this and whether it is worth it.

    Do you think it would be considered spamming to use the custom data field to insert a paragraph into the page. for example:

    "This album features photo's of birds, bird photography including parrots, macaws, finches, swans" etc

    Would want to keep the description field separate for Lis to personalise.

    Thankyou for your support.
  • acrylian Administrator, Developer
    Do you mean an invisible paragraph or the like? I am sure search engines don't really like that. I am not a real SEO expert. Best you check with the google guidelines and that of other search engines (yes, there are others...:-))
  • mrbiggs Member
    If one gives a description to an alum, like boo mentions "this album features photos of birds.." but then one removes the description template tag from the album template, would Google and other search engines still "see" the description? I've often wondered this. If the text makes it into the database but is merely not displayed on the page, does that still work? if it does, and Google understands it as valid, then that description or a custom field would work great for this.
  • acrylian Administrator, Developer
    I am not sure if I understand what you are asking... If you remove the template tag to print the description, of course no search engine will see it. How should it if it is not printed?? Of course no search engine can read the database!
  • boo Member
    Ok,
    What I'm thinking is to have more text on the page additional to the desccription, somewhere else on the page using the custom data field, not invisible just loaded with keywords in a paragraph or two.

    ie for Lis's Birds album:

    DESCRIPTION
    -----------
    Photographing birds is not only a challenge but a real pleasure. Gives you a chance to study hehaviour, bird calls and much more. You just need lots of patience and a flask of coffee at the ready.

    OTHER ALBUM TEXT USING CUSTOM DATA FIELD
    ----------------------------------------
    This photo album features photo's of birds including parrots, macaws, finches, swans etc.

    Should do the trick ?
  • acrylian Administrator, Developer
    But you know that placing invisible text for seo ranking is actually considered "bad practice"?
  • boo Member
    Yes but as I said it would not be invisible.
  • acrylian Administrator, Developer
    Sorry! I read that into your post, probably because I just talked about that with a client before answering ...:-)
  • fanda Member
    <title> <h1> and meta Keywords is the most preferred informations on page for getting information about page content (and position of searching result). In next step the meta description, <h2> and <h3>, bold text etc. This is the reason, why I vote for extra text fields for keywords and description for galeries, images, news and pages. And maybe for functions for generating them. :-) Yes, keywords can be generated from tags...
  • acrylian Administrator, Developer
    That is not true, bascially no search engine really cares about <meta> keywords. A properly structured website with real content is much more important than anything. Besides the html_meta_tag plugin already does generate <meta> information based on the content (description, title, tags).

    There are plenty of fields (custom, codeblocks, extracontent, etc) available you can use to do what you want. With a little theme work that is really no problem.
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